"A wise person, therefore, does not believe something is true just because an authoritive person says so"
Yeah? Like the WT society??? Absolute propaganda!! Sickening
Jim Lad
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Watchtower - August 1 2001
by hippikon inpage 3-4. your right to believe.
you probably cherish your right to believe whatever you wish to believe.
by exercising this right, earths six billion inhabitants have produced an amazing diversity of beliefs.
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What first made you doubt?
by Simon inthere will be one about what your favourite color is later... .
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For me that a principal should be true big or small: If elders locally can't see through crap by some divine intervention than how can I expect Jesus really is the head of the congregation when I've seen so much wrong within it for years, answer = no divine intervention, God is not with this people. Then I bought Christian Freedom by R Franz and that was that.
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GB Admits It Has No Answers, Blood
by Maximus in"in contrast with humans, who have a limited life span, jehovah never feels pressured by time to reveal his secrets prematurely.
this fact should prevent us from becoming impatient when certain bible questions cannot presently be explained to our satisfaction.
"modesty on the part of the faithful and discreet slave class, commissioned to provide the christian household with food at the proper time, prevents it from presumptuously running ahead and wildly speculating about things that are still unclear.
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I especially find the point of twins interesting, never considered that before.. once again it seems it's what's not said in the literature that needs to be pondered very seriously. My grandmother is in the hospital right now and the WT Liasons are there, would like to ask what they think of my beautiful younger twin sisters sharing blood. They should be struck down for it or what?
Anyway, thanks for the interesting point. Funny I've never thought of it before.
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watch what you ask about!
by zev ini posted this in another thread.... i wanted to give it its due concideration..... i wish to share a small tid-bit of something that came to "light" last week.
it shows how underhanded and sneeky the little trolls are, and they even know they are.. an issue came up recently in a watchtower over a certain number of years that was mentioned in a w.t.
the actual years in the bible was different.
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Jim Lad
I know it's a little off the topic, but, Zev, why do you have a picture of a chick as your - what's the term? - Avatar?
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Will the WT defend by default?
by Jim Lad inhi, folks, my wife is taking legal action in alberta against her pedophile stepfather who denied everything (when reappointed a ms), and since made an elder despite "unprovable accusations".. will, the society automatically step in to make a defense just because he's an elder?
we already had this go through all the "proper channels" right to the legal dept.
of canada in 97/98, so this story isn't new to them.
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I appreciate all comments very much and it did serve to answer my question. Actually the straw that broke the camels back for me was that the local mounties told my wife that JW's are the hardest to deal with the way they protect their elders. I'm aware that her story isn't unique (a frightening revelation at the time), and we feel no sense of importance or mission to the world. She has been treated like shit by all her family who won't believe her (mom does but her memory is selective when needing to choose which family she belongs too), her sister is the only exception. With two suicide attempts and years of marriage in the shadow of this disgusting history, we simply want to make HIM pay, jail hopefully. I am truly pissed off though when I fully realize how much this should be blamed indirectly on the WTS but this is all recent to me you understand. I hope that Maximus and Bill Bowen and all who make a great effort to expose this are rewarded and you certainly have my respect. I'll keep you folks posted on how all this goes down in the Canadian justice system. Looking forward to getting to know some intelligent consciencious objectors....
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Fred: He did serve til the end. A very painful end on a train in texas in 1916. No pain spared by the creator for this false prophet it would seem...
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Will the WT defend by default?
by Jim Lad inhi, folks, my wife is taking legal action in alberta against her pedophile stepfather who denied everything (when reappointed a ms), and since made an elder despite "unprovable accusations".. will, the society automatically step in to make a defense just because he's an elder?
we already had this go through all the "proper channels" right to the legal dept.
of canada in 97/98, so this story isn't new to them.
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Jim Lad
Maximus, when will the Dateline show come on? Is it just on show or an ongoing expose? Despite not going on camera are names mentioned? and if not how will the public take anyone credible who's simply a nameless shadow? All questions in good faith.
Thanks
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Are Elders Out of Control?
by metatron ini remember a time when the society exercised a significant.
degree of discipline over elders.
brothers were commonly.
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Jim Lad
Exodus, read a book by Ray Franz and your doubts will be confirmed! It sucks to know the truth isn't the truth but would you rather live a lie? (not being condescending)
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Will the WT defend by default?
by Jim Lad inhi, folks, my wife is taking legal action in alberta against her pedophile stepfather who denied everything (when reappointed a ms), and since made an elder despite "unprovable accusations".. will, the society automatically step in to make a defense just because he's an elder?
we already had this go through all the "proper channels" right to the legal dept.
of canada in 97/98, so this story isn't new to them.
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Maximus, your very kind. Neither of us has DA'd ourselves though. Wouldn't that happen auto if on TV denouncing WT. I only care on account of family. My wife hasn't gone for like 3yrs (save a couple due to my prodding) but my activity flatlined in April when I learned the truth about the truth. My darkest concerns validated upon reading "Christian Freedom". I've turned my answering machine off but live right beside a very zealous old pioneer couple. Short story: I'm in hiding (sort of), not wanting to not be allowed to go to family reunions with mom and my unbelieving grandfather (the length of WT tentacles is surprising in hindsight). I do appreciate the offer but concerned because I'm trying the "fade". He will have to travel 7-1/2hrs from northern AB to go to court when that goes through, which will naturally be public. At that time I've considered Silent Lambs ad in that town of 6000 in the "garage sale" section. Until then were keeping low key. We want them to find out from the RCMP w/o warning. We've been raised to believe the mounties always get their man! haha.
PS You certainly seem connected, how long away?
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Will the WT defend by default?
by Jim Lad inhi, folks, my wife is taking legal action in alberta against her pedophile stepfather who denied everything (when reappointed a ms), and since made an elder despite "unprovable accusations".. will, the society automatically step in to make a defense just because he's an elder?
we already had this go through all the "proper channels" right to the legal dept.
of canada in 97/98, so this story isn't new to them.
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Maximus: What's dateline? (US media exposure dealy?), I don't have your email address.
Franc: -???? reference to paradox of report/fight?
Thanks guys.